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	<title>Comments on: Thursday 092310 &#8211; Jumps and row</title>
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		<title>By: Tyler Quinn</title>
		<link>http://www.crossfitstpaul.com/2010/09/thursday-092310-jumps-and-row/#comment-2042</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kalen, we don&#039;t want to become dependent on the med-ball because people have a tendency to bounce.  Also, we&#039;d like to have people increase their body awareness to the point where they can sense or feel (just look down before you stand back up) whether or not they&#039;ve reached full depth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kalen, we don&#8217;t want to become dependent on the med-ball because people have a tendency to bounce.  Also, we&#8217;d like to have people increase their body awareness to the point where they can sense or feel (just look down before you stand back up) whether or not they&#8217;ve reached full depth.</p>
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		<title>By: kalen</title>
		<link>http://www.crossfitstpaul.com/2010/09/thursday-092310-jumps-and-row/#comment-2038</link>
		<dc:creator>kalen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 02:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For squats why don&#039;t we bring back the med ball for depth check - then we know whether we are making the full movement. For most people that would be the correct depth - some exceptions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For squats why don&#8217;t we bring back the med ball for depth check &#8211; then we know whether we are making the full movement. For most people that would be the correct depth &#8211; some exceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Brawley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Brawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 01:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[33.5&quot; box, 195 snatch high pull (on the last 2 reps, the rest were 185).  3:49.8 row]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>33.5&#8243; box, 195 snatch high pull (on the last 2 reps, the rest were 185).  3:49.8 row</p>
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		<title>By: Ian S</title>
		<link>http://www.crossfitstpaul.com/2010/09/thursday-092310-jumps-and-row/#comment-2036</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 00:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops. Wrong day.

44.5 box jump
185 snatch thingee
3:11.8 500m row

Woo!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. Wrong day.</p>
<p>44.5 box jump<br />
185 snatch thingee<br />
3:11.8 500m row</p>
<p>Woo!</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[39&quot; box jump
Worked up to 185 on my last round.  Should have started at 135...
3:44 row.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>39&#8243; box jump<br />
Worked up to 185 on my last round.  Should have started at 135&#8230;<br />
3:44 row.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess S</title>
		<link>http://www.crossfitstpaul.com/2010/09/thursday-092310-jumps-and-row/#comment-2032</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking for myself....I would like the coaches to let me know if my range of motion is not good enough and my reps are not counting.  Sometimes it is hard to realize you are not getting in a complete squat when you are really tired because we don&#039;t have any mirrors to check ourselves out in. :-)  I think it is particularly important for the people that are making it on the leaderboard to complete the workouts without any question as to whether the correct number of reps were performed or full movements were executed.    

I&#039;m just waiting for the perfect WOD that the all-stars don&#039;t show up to so I can finally get my name up there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking for myself&#8230;.I would like the coaches to let me know if my range of motion is not good enough and my reps are not counting.  Sometimes it is hard to realize you are not getting in a complete squat when you are really tired because we don&#8217;t have any mirrors to check ourselves out in. <img src='http://www.crossfitstpaul.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I think it is particularly important for the people that are making it on the leaderboard to complete the workouts without any question as to whether the correct number of reps were performed or full movements were executed.    </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just waiting for the perfect WOD that the all-stars don&#8217;t show up to so I can finally get my name up there.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike J</title>
		<link>http://www.crossfitstpaul.com/2010/09/thursday-092310-jumps-and-row/#comment-2031</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And don&#039;t lie, you spend your days in your cubical devising ways to get on the leaderboard just like me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And don&#8217;t lie, you spend your days in your cubical devising ways to get on the leaderboard just like me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike J</title>
		<link>http://www.crossfitstpaul.com/2010/09/thursday-092310-jumps-and-row/#comment-2030</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike, agreed on both counts - 1) Coaches are responsible to enforce range of motion during workouts, and 2) Participants are responsible for being honest.  We&#039;ve steadily increased our expectations standardizing of our range of motion standards over the past few months, and I promise we&#039;ll continue to do so as time goes on.

The biggest range of motion issues we have are not getting full depth on squats, and chest not hitting the ground on pushups.  Both of which were on display yesterday, were corrected, but not corrected enough.  Many of the scores for the leaderboard were close enough that it&#039;s not fair post them if we&#039;re unsure about range of motion - basically we realized we had a problem after the fact and we can&#039;t go back and correct yesterday so we&#039;re treating this as a learning experience.

Good day to you sir.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, agreed on both counts &#8211; 1) Coaches are responsible to enforce range of motion during workouts, and 2) Participants are responsible for being honest.  We&#8217;ve steadily increased our expectations standardizing of our range of motion standards over the past few months, and I promise we&#8217;ll continue to do so as time goes on.</p>
<p>The biggest range of motion issues we have are not getting full depth on squats, and chest not hitting the ground on pushups.  Both of which were on display yesterday, were corrected, but not corrected enough.  Many of the scores for the leaderboard were close enough that it&#8217;s not fair post them if we&#8217;re unsure about range of motion &#8211; basically we realized we had a problem after the fact and we can&#8217;t go back and correct yesterday so we&#8217;re treating this as a learning experience.</p>
<p>Good day to you sir.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike S.</title>
		<link>http://www.crossfitstpaul.com/2010/09/thursday-092310-jumps-and-row/#comment-2029</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WHAT?!?! NO ANGIE SCORES?!?!  I&#039;m officially declaring shenanigans.

I don’t know what the range of motion issues were, but I assume it’s people not doing the exercises as prescribed (i.e. Chin over the bar, chest to ground, upper leg parallel to the ground, etc.)  

I don&#039;t really care about the accolades of having my name on a board somewhere, but I don&#039;t like the suggestion that I do well because I&#039;m not really doing the exercises.  If the exercises aren’t being done right, shouldn’t the coaches or the community step in and correct it?

I think that at a certain point athletes have to be trusted to do the right thing. Weather it be counting or range of motion issues.  I could do a 12 minute &quot;Angie&quot; doing 80-80-80-80, and claiming I did 100-100-100-100.  To me that’s the same as doing 100 push ups or 100 squats and not going all the way down.  Either you’re doing all of the required number of repetitions correctly, or you aren’t really doing the WOD.

That&#039;s just my two cents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT?!?! NO ANGIE SCORES?!?!  I&#8217;m officially declaring shenanigans.</p>
<p>I don’t know what the range of motion issues were, but I assume it’s people not doing the exercises as prescribed (i.e. Chin over the bar, chest to ground, upper leg parallel to the ground, etc.)  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really care about the accolades of having my name on a board somewhere, but I don&#8217;t like the suggestion that I do well because I&#8217;m not really doing the exercises.  If the exercises aren’t being done right, shouldn’t the coaches or the community step in and correct it?</p>
<p>I think that at a certain point athletes have to be trusted to do the right thing. Weather it be counting or range of motion issues.  I could do a 12 minute &#8220;Angie&#8221; doing 80-80-80-80, and claiming I did 100-100-100-100.  To me that’s the same as doing 100 push ups or 100 squats and not going all the way down.  Either you’re doing all of the required number of repetitions correctly, or you aren’t really doing the WOD.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan N</title>
		<link>http://www.crossfitstpaul.com/2010/09/thursday-092310-jumps-and-row/#comment-2028</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am with Mike on the 13 rounds, if you quit on the 12th round, that would have only been 11:xx minutes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with Mike on the 13 rounds, if you quit on the 12th round, that would have only been 11:xx minutes.</p>
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